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	<title>Comments on: MyBB has a legal run-in with XennoBB</title>
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	<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/</link>
	<description>Chris Boulton</description>
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		<title>By: Community Wise &#171; Community Wise</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-39526</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Wise &#171; Community Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] XennoBB It does not end there for XennoBB and the Xenno Project Manager (Os) Theres more.. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] XennoBB It does not end there for XennoBB and the Xenno Project Manager (Os) Theres more.. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dietrich</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-39394</link>
		<dc:creator>Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the team split and another project was created; XennoBB itself has been dead since, so seems Osgiliath to be too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the team split and another project was created; XennoBB itself has been dead since, so seems Osgiliath to be too.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-39374</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone notice, that his website is offline now???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone notice, that his website is offline now???</p>
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		<title>By: RetroDude</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-31896</link>
		<dc:creator>RetroDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Osgiliath has been kicked out of the development team. We have removed any sources of download of the old BB and CMS. We are starting afresh. From scrap with a new development team. OS has nothing to do with us anymore. We are trying to clear our name and i apologise for OS&#039;s behaviour, although i do this myself not on behalf of anyone else even though i know they feel the same. I didnt know about this issue until 4 or 5 days ago, because of my inactivity on the forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osgiliath has been kicked out of the development team. We have removed any sources of download of the old BB and CMS. We are starting afresh. From scrap with a new development team. OS has nothing to do with us anymore. We are trying to clear our name and i apologise for OS&#8217;s behaviour, although i do this myself not on behalf of anyone else even though i know they feel the same. I didnt know about this issue until 4 or 5 days ago, because of my inactivity on the forums.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-27731</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how when registering on the Xenno Forums, they spelt &quot;forum&quot; as &quot;form&quot;.  It looks like what it is...a complete rip.  They suck.  Any updates Chris?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how when registering on the Xenno Forums, they spelt &#8220;forum&#8221; as &#8220;form&#8221;.  It looks like what it is&#8230;a complete rip.  They suck.  Any updates Chris?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-23755</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a follow up on this story, the Themes resource www.xenno themes.com has started with ripping an eXtreme Styles theme. God will these people never end. Although, I have to admit, it is a nice bunch of features *slaps myself*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a follow up on this story, the Themes resource <a href="http://www.xenno" rel="nofollow">http://www.xenno</a> themes.com has started with ripping an eXtreme Styles theme. God will these people never end. Although, I have to admit, it is a nice bunch of features *slaps myself*</p>
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		<title>By: Tikitiki</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-21683</link>
		<dc:creator>Tikitiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I just found out? http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=xennobb&amp;sbm=/&amp;submit=Search!&amp;metaname=alldoc&amp;sort=swishlastmodified

A whole ton of vulnerabilities discovered by Chris, and reported to xennon. You&#039;d think they&#039;d owe chris one for discovering and reporting them, but instead they rip MyBB? I think someone has been smoking the drugs up there a little too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I just found out? <a href="http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=xennobb&amp;sbm=/&amp;submit=Search" rel="nofollow">http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=xennobb&amp;sbm=/&amp;submit=Search</a>!&amp;metaname=alldoc&amp;sort=swishlastmodified</p>
<p>A whole ton of vulnerabilities discovered by Chris, and reported to xennon. You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d owe chris one for discovering and reporting them, but instead they rip MyBB? I think someone has been smoking the drugs up there a little too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Hraefn</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-20753</link>
		<dc:creator>Hraefn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew about XennoBB (through OpensourceCMS) before I even heard of MyBB. I admit to liking how XennoBB looked (it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; sleek looking, you have to admit), but then I found out about the GPL ripping issue (thanks to Dietrich&#039;s efforts on OSCMS). You could say that I dropped XennoBB like it was a hot platter immediately after learning that. The code ripping was bad enough, but what really put me off was seeing Osgiliath&#039;s (Marius Stanciu) behaviour when confronted about it. It was shaming, really, and I wasn&#039;t even involved with the software&#039;s development... I just used it once.

It&#039;s a pity that many of XennoBB&#039;s users (at least the new ones) are unaware of its controversies. I guess it wouldn&#039;t surprise you to learn that Osgiliath apparently sterilizes his forum since I saw no mention of this issue in there. I&#039;ll definitely be doing what I can to spread the truth about XennoBB. In any case, I&#039;m shifting to MyBB (which I discovered indirectly through XennoBB), which looks perfect for my needs. 

Hey! I guess there&#039;s reason to thank Osgiliath after all. =^^=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew about XennoBB (through OpensourceCMS) before I even heard of MyBB. I admit to liking how XennoBB looked (it <i>was</i> sleek looking, you have to admit), but then I found out about the GPL ripping issue (thanks to Dietrich&#8217;s efforts on OSCMS). You could say that I dropped XennoBB like it was a hot platter immediately after learning that. The code ripping was bad enough, but what really put me off was seeing Osgiliath&#8217;s (Marius Stanciu) behaviour when confronted about it. It was shaming, really, and I wasn&#8217;t even involved with the software&#8217;s development&#8230; I just used it once.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity that many of XennoBB&#8217;s users (at least the new ones) are unaware of its controversies. I guess it wouldn&#8217;t surprise you to learn that Osgiliath apparently sterilizes his forum since I saw no mention of this issue in there. I&#8217;ll definitely be doing what I can to spread the truth about XennoBB. In any case, I&#8217;m shifting to MyBB (which I discovered indirectly through XennoBB), which looks perfect for my needs. </p>
<p>Hey! I guess there&#8217;s reason to thank Osgiliath after all. =^^=</p>
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		<title>By: sTrEtCh</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-20176</link>
		<dc:creator>sTrEtCh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehehe, just shows you what idiotic caracters are out there in the world. dont claim what is not yours and give credit where credit is due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehehe, just shows you what idiotic caracters are out there in the world. dont claim what is not yours and give credit where credit is due.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/comment-page-1/#comment-19592</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Find out where he lives and email me an addrees, i&#039;ll see to it that this guy is eating all his meals through a straw, i&#039;ll also steal a few quid to cover travel expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Find out where he lives and email me an addrees, i&#8217;ll see to it that this guy is eating all his meals through a straw, i&#8217;ll also steal a few quid to cover travel expenses.</p>
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