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	<title>Comments on: MyBB has a legal run-in with XennoBB</title>
	<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/</link>
	<description>Chris Boulton</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Community Wise &#171; Community Wise</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-39526</link>
		<dc:creator>Community Wise &#171; Community Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-39526</guid>
		<description>[...] XennoBB It does not end there for XennoBB and the Xenno Project Manager (Os) Theres more.. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] XennoBB It does not end there for XennoBB and the Xenno Project Manager (Os) Theres more.. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dietrich</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-39394</link>
		<dc:creator>Dietrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-39394</guid>
		<description>Yes, the team split and another project was created; XennoBB itself has been dead since, so seems Osgiliath to be too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the team split and another project was created; XennoBB itself has been dead since, so seems Osgiliath to be too.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-39374</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-39374</guid>
		<description>Did anyone notice, that his website is offline now???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone notice, that his website is offline now???</p>
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		<title>By: RetroDude</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-31896</link>
		<dc:creator>RetroDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-31896</guid>
		<description>Osgiliath has been kicked out of the development team. We have removed any sources of download of the old BB and CMS. We are starting afresh. From scrap with a new development team. OS has nothing to do with us anymore. We are trying to clear our name and i apologise for OS's behaviour, although i do this myself not on behalf of anyone else even though i know they feel the same. I didnt know about this issue until 4 or 5 days ago, because of my inactivity on the forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osgiliath has been kicked out of the development team. We have removed any sources of download of the old BB and CMS. We are starting afresh. From scrap with a new development team. OS has nothing to do with us anymore. We are trying to clear our name and i apologise for OS&#8217;s behaviour, although i do this myself not on behalf of anyone else even though i know they feel the same. I didnt know about this issue until 4 or 5 days ago, because of my inactivity on the forums.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-27731</link>
		<dc:creator>Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 09:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-27731</guid>
		<description>I love how when registering on the Xenno Forums, they spelt "forum" as "form".  It looks like what it is...a complete rip.  They suck.  Any updates Chris?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how when registering on the Xenno Forums, they spelt &#8220;forum&#8221; as &#8220;form&#8221;.  It looks like what it is&#8230;a complete rip.  They suck.  Any updates Chris?</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-23755</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 08:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-23755</guid>
		<description>Just a follow up on this story, the Themes resource www.xenno themes.com has started with ripping an eXtreme Styles theme. God will these people never end. Although, I have to admit, it is a nice bunch of features *slaps myself*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a follow up on this story, the Themes resource <a href="http://www.xenno" rel="nofollow">www.xenno</a> themes.com has started with ripping an eXtreme Styles theme. God will these people never end. Although, I have to admit, it is a nice bunch of features *slaps myself*</p>
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		<title>By: Tikitiki</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-21683</link>
		<dc:creator>Tikitiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 04:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-21683</guid>
		<description>You know what I just found out? http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=xennobb&#38;sbm=/&#38;submit=Search!&#38;metaname=alldoc&#38;sort=swishlastmodified

A whole ton of vulnerabilities discovered by Chris, and reported to xennon. You'd think they'd owe chris one for discovering and reporting them, but instead they rip MyBB? I think someone has been smoking the drugs up there a little too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I just found out? <a href="http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=xennobb&amp;sbm=/&amp;submit=Search" rel="nofollow">http://search.securityfocus.com/swsearch?query=xennobb&amp;sbm=/&amp;submit=Search</a>!&amp;metaname=alldoc&amp;sort=swishlastmodified</p>
<p>A whole ton of vulnerabilities discovered by Chris, and reported to xennon. You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d owe chris one for discovering and reporting them, but instead they rip MyBB? I think someone has been smoking the drugs up there a little too long.</p>
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		<title>By: Hraefn</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-20753</link>
		<dc:creator>Hraefn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 05:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-20753</guid>
		<description>I knew about XennoBB (through OpensourceCMS) before I even heard of MyBB. I admit to liking how XennoBB looked (it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; sleek looking, you have to admit), but then I found out about the GPL ripping issue (thanks to Dietrich's efforts on OSCMS). You could say that I dropped XennoBB like it was a hot platter immediately after learning that. The code ripping was bad enough, but what really put me off was seeing Osgiliath's (Marius Stanciu) behaviour when confronted about it. It was shaming, really, and I wasn't even involved with the software's development... I just used it once.

It's a pity that many of XennoBB's users (at least the new ones) are unaware of its controversies. I guess it wouldn't surprise you to learn that Osgiliath apparently sterilizes his forum since I saw no mention of this issue in there. I'll definitely be doing what I can to spread the truth about XennoBB. In any case, I'm shifting to MyBB (which I discovered indirectly through XennoBB), which looks perfect for my needs. 

Hey! I guess there's reason to thank Osgiliath after all. =^^=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew about XennoBB (through OpensourceCMS) before I even heard of MyBB. I admit to liking how XennoBB looked (it <i>was</i> sleek looking, you have to admit), but then I found out about the GPL ripping issue (thanks to Dietrich&#8217;s efforts on OSCMS). You could say that I dropped XennoBB like it was a hot platter immediately after learning that. The code ripping was bad enough, but what really put me off was seeing Osgiliath&#8217;s (Marius Stanciu) behaviour when confronted about it. It was shaming, really, and I wasn&#8217;t even involved with the software&#8217;s development&#8230; I just used it once.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity that many of XennoBB&#8217;s users (at least the new ones) are unaware of its controversies. I guess it wouldn&#8217;t surprise you to learn that Osgiliath apparently sterilizes his forum since I saw no mention of this issue in there. I&#8217;ll definitely be doing what I can to spread the truth about XennoBB. In any case, I&#8217;m shifting to MyBB (which I discovered indirectly through XennoBB), which looks perfect for my needs. </p>
<p>Hey! I guess there&#8217;s reason to thank Osgiliath after all. =^^=</p>
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		<title>By: sTrEtCh</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-20176</link>
		<dc:creator>sTrEtCh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-20176</guid>
		<description>hehehehe, just shows you what idiotic caracters are out there in the world. dont claim what is not yours and give credit where credit is due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehehe, just shows you what idiotic caracters are out there in the world. dont claim what is not yours and give credit where credit is due.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-19592</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/09/20/mybb-has-a-legal-run-in-with-xennobb/#comment-19592</guid>
		<description>Find out where he lives and email me an addrees, i'll see to it that this guy is eating all his meals through a straw, i'll also steal a few quid to cover travel expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Find out where he lives and email me an addrees, i&#8217;ll see to it that this guy is eating all his meals through a straw, i&#8217;ll also steal a few quid to cover travel expenses.</p>
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