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	<title>Comments on: MyBB: Still Happening</title>
	<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/</link>
	<description>Chris Boulton</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9074</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 09:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9074</guid>
		<description>Well I guess you solved the problem without getting the user to bang their head against the wall because they cant figure out the solution. Actually, thats what Captcha images are about, let the computer bang its virtual head and allow the human user to pass. My bad.

And I would be changing the backgrounds (is that what you were implying, you didnt quite finish the sentence) to something like what Passport has, even though I dont want users with hemerages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess you solved the problem without getting the user to bang their head against the wall because they cant figure out the solution. Actually, thats what Captcha images are about, let the computer bang its virtual head and allow the human user to pass. My bad.</p>
<p>And I would be changing the backgrounds (is that what you were implying, you didnt quite finish the sentence) to something like what Passport has, even though I dont want users with hemerages.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Boulton</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9072</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Boulton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 09:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9072</guid>
		<description>Actually the current ones have 100% of a chance of being decoded easily. The non-ttf font one above is the same as you can't do much to change the characters around.

The current ones are a lot harder to read by bots too - the text on angles, random shadow width's and positions, random font sizes etc. They make look easier for you to read, but in terms of OCR they're about 12 times better than the current ones. Users specifying their own custom fonts (which they can do by placing them in a directory) will make the protection stronger. I also forgot to mention the random "crap" in the background of the images.

When I designed them, I did follow that "PWNtcha" article. I tried to take the best of both worlds . I didn't implement things that make it fifty times harder to read for people, and tried to include things to trick bots. I also needed a workable solution that was possible fairly easily with GD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the current ones have 100% of a chance of being decoded easily. The non-ttf font one above is the same as you can&#8217;t do much to change the characters around.</p>
<p>The current ones are a lot harder to read by bots too - the text on angles, random shadow width&#8217;s and positions, random font sizes etc. They make look easier for you to read, but in terms of OCR they&#8217;re about 12 times better than the current ones. Users specifying their own custom fonts (which they can do by placing them in a directory) will make the protection stronger. I also forgot to mention the random &#8220;crap&#8221; in the background of the images.</p>
<p>When I designed them, I did follow that &#8220;PWNtcha&#8221; article. I tried to take the best of both worlds . I didn&#8217;t implement things that make it fifty times harder to read for people, and tried to include things to trick bots. I also needed a workable solution that was possible fairly easily with GD.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9071</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 09:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9071</guid>
		<description>Something else YOU SHOULD READ and try to avoid any look-alikes are here: http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/
vBulletin hasnt got a chance!

(sorry for the double post)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something else YOU SHOULD READ and try to avoid any look-alikes are here: <a href="http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/" rel="nofollow">http://sam.zoy.org/pwntcha/</a><br />
vBulletin hasnt got a chance!</p>
<p>(sorry for the double post)</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9070</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 09:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9070</guid>
		<description>Vacation! I need one... oh hello K776, hows it hanging?

BTW, the captcha images dont look really promising. They make it much easier for bots to read seeing as their much easier to read than what is currently in place. The reason we have Captcha images is to stop the amount of automated signups. PhpBB is working on improving their captcha images so humans can JUST read it, you might just want to flick through the pages here: http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?sid=&#38;f=4&#38;t=23549&#38;hilit=captcha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vacation! I need one&#8230; oh hello K776, hows it hanging?</p>
<p>BTW, the captcha images dont look really promising. They make it much easier for bots to read seeing as their much easier to read than what is currently in place. The reason we have Captcha images is to stop the amount of automated signups. PhpBB is working on improving their captcha images so humans can JUST read it, you might just want to flick through the pages here: <a href="http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?sid=&amp;f=4&amp;t=23549&amp;hilit=captcha" rel="nofollow">http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?sid=&amp;f=4&amp;t=23549&amp;hilit=captcha</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9066</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 07:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9066</guid>
		<description>k
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is back!!!  Did you have a nice vacation? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>k<br />
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<p>is back!!!  Did you have a nice vacation? <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Christian585</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9047</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian585</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 21:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9047</guid>
		<description>Lookin' forward to 1.2! Keep up the good work MyBB Team!

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lookin&#8217; forward to 1.2! Keep up the good work MyBB Team!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: tikitiki</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9036</link>
		<dc:creator>tikitiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9036</guid>
		<description>Glad to see some of my suggestions made it in :P 

(p.s. Hi Kieran! - long time no see)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see some of my suggestions made it in <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(p.s. Hi Kieran! - long time no see)</p>
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		<title>By: xiaozhu</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9031</link>
		<dc:creator>xiaozhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 07:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9031</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href="#comment-9023" title="View the Original Comment" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Chris Boulton said:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Probably sometime in next month for a private beta and then hopefully a month after that, public release..&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That means..this release will only be out in around July</description>
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<a href="#comment-9023" title="View the Original Comment" rel="nofollow"><em>Chris Boulton said:</em></a><br />
Probably sometime in next month for a private beta and then hopefully a month after that, public release..</p></blockquote>
<p>That means..this release will only be out in around July</p>
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		<title>By: Belloman</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9028</link>
		<dc:creator>Belloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 May 2006 01:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9028</guid>
		<description>I wonder if he'll tell the public... I doubt it :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if he&#8217;ll tell the public&#8230; I doubt it <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: k776</title>
		<link>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9027</link>
		<dc:creator>k776</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 20:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.surfionline.com/archives/2006/05/09/mybb-still-happening/#comment-9027</guid>
		<description>Hi Chris. Long time. Sounds like its coming along nicely. Will this version have yet another new theme? Admin CP stuff incorperated yet or not till 1.4? Saw your post about AJAX. Sweet :D

Btw, what was the answer to that Guess the feature? Comments only showed something about stats, rdf, and page generation times.

(how the bug tracker? ;) )

And :o    The wiki looks awesome :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris. Long time. Sounds like its coming along nicely. Will this version have yet another new theme? Admin CP stuff incorperated yet or not till 1.4? Saw your post about AJAX. Sweet <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Btw, what was the answer to that Guess the feature? Comments only showed something about stats, rdf, and page generation times.</p>
<p>(how the bug tracker? <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>And <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' />    The wiki looks awesome <img src='http://www.surfionline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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